5:30 PST Closings

Arkansas called for Team Red.

Moved Connecticut (Clinton), Alabama (Trump), and South Carolina (Trump) after hitting MSNBC. And look, CNN called it.


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MSNBC also calls the House of Representatives for the Republicans.

Is the election over? No.

5:00PM PST Results

Called: Delaware, Washington DC, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, and Tennessee.

Not called: Alabama, Connecticut, Florida, Maine, Missouri, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania.

Alabama? Connecticut? Really? Let’s keep stretching it to finish after 8PM PST #sellingAdSpaceHere.


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Exit Polls for 2016

Just an update for 2016. In 2012, this was how the exit polls worked. There is a small update since then. Now there are 28 states instead of 32.

There is a great article on Vox that talks in greater detail than my humble post from 2012.

Morning of the 2016 Election

If we use the URL of this website as a question, the answer should be today.

Here’s how I see it – start with everything that 538.com has as 90+% in the bag for either candidate (as of 12:15A PST – start with this for your own playing at home):


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And then let’s go with our normal when the polls close and we’re only going to talk about the states that are not 90+%:

7:00PM Eastern / 4:00PM Pacific

Of the six states will close: Indiana, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vermont are going to be called, leaving Georgia and Virginia. Virginia could take a while, but Georgia could go at close. Let’s go with Georgia for Team Red and Virginia for Team Blue. Any discrepancy means a problem for that side – which leaves you with this:


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Is the election over? No.

7:30 Eastern / 4:30 Pacific

If you believe the prognosticators, you have: West Virginia, North Carolina and Ohio. Only West Virginia gets called at 7:30 and is already called in our 90+% call. North Carolina and Ohio could be called earlier than 6:00 PST, but I don’t think they will. But for fun, let’s look at it as if they are:


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Is the election over? No.

8:00 Eastern / 5:00 Pacific

The large batch of states are called at 5PM PST. In the 90+: Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware, Washington DC,  IllinoisMaryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, MissouriNew Jersey, OklahomaRhode Island, and Tennessee. In the not called, you have: Florida, MaineNew Hampshire, and Pennsylvania. Two to look for here: Florida and New Hampshire. As discussed last time, there are down ballot implications for the Senate.
Here’s what all of that looks like:


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Is the election over? Almost.

8:30 EASTERN / 5:30 PACIFIC

Arkansas is the only call. Again, no surprises here. Since they’re not a sub-90%, no new map.

Is the election over? Almost.

9:00 EASTERN / 6:00 PACIFIC

Home stretch: In the pre-called: Kansas, LouisianaNebraskaNew York, North Dakota, South Dakota, Texas, and Wyoming. In the running: Arizona, ColoradoMichigan, MinnesotaNew Mexico, and Wisconsin. If you believe Team Red, everything in the running is going their way. If that’s true, it’s been an interesting night, none of the maps above are right and we won’t be over by a long shot. If they’re wrong, that’s the ballgame. Here’s what that looks like:


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Is the election over? Yes. But they can’t and won’t tell you that.

10:00 EASTERN / 7:00 PACIFIC

Iowa, Montana, Nevada, Utah. Not calling Iowa or Nevada until after 7:30 Pacific. And here’s what that looks like:


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10:30 EASTERN / 7:30 PACIFIC

A lot of the close states they will not have called Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, North Carolina, maybe Maine. As discussed last time, if you call any of those states for Clinton before 8PM Pacific, the election is over if everything else we’ve talked about before this holds true. Again, the bet you might want to have with your friends is what state is called to put it past that threshold of 192 electoral college votes before 8:00 Pacific.

11:00 EASTERN / 8:00 PACIFIC

Washington, Oregon, California, Idaho, Hawaii. Ballgame. To me, the key is Ohio, followed by Pennsylvania. If either race is called before 6PM Pacific, it doesn’t matter what happens in Florida, North Carolina, Iowa, or Nevada. Without calling those six states, it’s 253-191 for Clinton and Drumpf has to win Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio and he is given less than 40% of a chance in each of all three. Tough sledding for any candidate. Alaska gets called at 9:00 Pacific and we can call it a wrap:


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My questions are North Carolina, Florida, New Hampshire, Nevada, Arizona…

  • In North Carolina, where does the military vote go?
  • In Florida, what about the Hispanic vote and where do Cubans call home?
  • New Hampshire, is there something for Drumpf? If so, does this portend a very different night?
  • Nevada, did the onslaught of last minute votes sway and does it tip the Senate race?
  • Arizona – see Nevada.

I don’t know, but I will be watching, having popcorn and will live blog it (just like four years ago).

The state of the election in 2016

So it’s been four years, and it’s time to fire up the old “when is the election over” site.

If you were to visit the site in late January and I had a posting, we could have talked about a Rubio – Clinton general election. And then the Trump steamroller happened, with a side of Bernie-mania. Things were interesting, and then the summer happened, and well…there you go. Now we are in the final two weeks, and it’s almost over.

Before we break down how election night could go, let’s revisit how election night happens. As noted four years ago, there is a lot of work that goes on. When it comes to what I say will happen, your mileage may vary – and if they haven’t called any of these states within a few minutes after the polls close, you might as well buckle up, it could be a fun night. Since this site prefers to talk about election night as we go, here’s what we’ve got (methodology – and maps will come next week as we get closer):

7:00PM Eastern / 4:00PM Pacific

At seven o’clock, six states will close: Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vermont, and Virginia. I think most will be called – Georgia being the possible exception, I think it will be called within the first 30 minutes after polls close. If it takes any longer than 30 minutes, whoo boy.

7:30 Eastern / 4:30 Pacific

So they called West Virginia, and we will add Georgia. If Georgia goes for Clinton and it’s within the first half hour, it’s going to be a LONG night for the red team. You also have North Carolina and Ohio. Just for fun, we’re not calling either until 7:30PM Pacific.

8:00 Eastern / 5:00 Pacific

Big batch of states called: Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware, Washington DC, Florida, Illinois, MaineMaryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, New HampshireNew Jersey, Oklahoma, PennsylvaniaRhode Island, Tennessee, and Maine (maybe not all of Maine, but for this conversation it will be all of Maine). Three to look for here: Florida, Missouri, and New Hampshire. If Missouri isn’t called for Trump that won’t be good for the Republican Senate candidate. New Hampshire and Pennsylvania are similar in that if it goes quickly for Clinton, bad news for the Republican Senate candidates because it could be Trump supporters stayed home. Florida is projected to go Clinton, but does it take a while? With Maine, the question will be does Trump get an electoral vote due to the state splitting on congressional districts? If all but Florida are called before 8:30PM Eastern, and called in the way they’re predicted to go, it’s almost over. If they call Florida for Clinton, it’s over – so we’ll keep it as not called for now and call it at 7:30PM Pacific.

8:30 EASTERN / 5:30 PACIFIC

Arkansas is the only call. Again, no surprises here.

9:00 EASTERN / 6:00 PACIFIC

Home stretch: Arizona, Colorado, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, South Dakota, Texas, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. Still not over.

10:00 EASTERN / 7:00 PACIFIC

Iowa, Montana, Nevada, Utah. Not calling Iowa or Nevada until after 7:30 Pacific.

10:30 EASTERN / 7:30 PACIFIC

So we haven’t called North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, Iowa, or Nevada and we haven’t called the west coast (Washington, Oregon, California, Idaho, and Hawaii) and here’s why that is important: the Election in 1980, when the election was called and conceded before the polls closed on the west coast.

If you call any of those states for Clinton before 8PM Pacific, the election is over if everything else we’ve talked about before this holds true. Washington, Oregon, California, and Hawaii are all slated to go to Clinton and that is 78 electoral votes. If Clinton has 192 or more electoral college votes before 8:00 Pacific, that’s the ballgame and we’ve been watching the bloviate class discuss the more interesting Senate races and whether or not the House will flip. The bet you might want to have with your friends is what state is called to put it past that threshold of 192 electoral college votes before 8:00 Pacific.

11:00 EASTERN / 8:00 PACIFIC

Washington, Oregon, California, Idaho, Hawaii. Ballgame. To me, the key is Ohio, followed by Pennsylvania. If either race is called before 6PM Pacific, it doesn’t matter what happens in Florida, North Carolina, Iowa, or Nevada. Without calling those six states, it’s 253-191 for Clinton and Trump has to win Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio and he is given less than 40% of a chance in each of all three. Tough sledding for any candidate.

Methodology for 2016

Here is where I get hypothetical results:

  • FiveThirtyEight – I’ve loved this site for eight years. It gives my electoral nerd goosebumps. I prefer to use their Polls-Plus model, as it is a little more conservative in nature. And until that team gets it wrong, it’s who I’ll use.
  • 270ToWin – I use their interactive site to build the maps you see on this site, but I also like their forecast page, because it has a lot of sites I follow during this time of the election season.

What I do:

  • Take numbers from a variety of sites, estimate when they will actually call the state and walk everyone through what I think the night will look like. I also try to take into consideration other races that may influence turnout. Am I right? No, but it’s fun.

So, how was the guessing?

 

Ok – if you visited the site prior to the election, you saw the page where I estimated when they’d call the state versus when the state closed.

Here’s the data points: The call time comes from NPR. Any poll times that I got incorrect as part of the original posting were adjusted to the correct call time. I call it a successful call if it’s within 15 minutes (partial credit if within 30).

Close State Estimate Actual Correct?
7:00
GEORGIA 7:00 7:05 Y
INDIANA 7:00 7:04 Y
KENTUCKY 7:00 7:04 Y
S. CAROLINA 7:00 7:05 Y
VERMONT 7:00 7:04 Y
VIRGINIA 9:00 12:15
7:30
N. CAROLINA 8:30 10:54
OHIO 8:30 11:18
W. VIRGINIA 7:30 7:30 Y
8:00
ALABAMA 8:00 8:00 Y
CONNECTICUT 8:00 8:00 Y
DELAWARE 8:00 8:00 Y
WASH. D.C. 8:00 8:00 Y
FLORIDA 9:00
ILLINOIS 8:00 8:01 Y
MAINE 8:00 8:06 Y
8:00 MARYLAND 8:00 8:00 Y
MASS. 8:00 8:00 Y
MISSISSIPPI 8:00 8:00 Y
MISSOURI 8:00 11:07
N. HAMPSHIRE 9:30 9:51 P
NEW JERSEY 8:00 9:08
OKLAHOMA 8:00 8:01 Y
PENN. 8:30 9:44
RHODE ISLAND 8:00 8:00 Y
TENNESSEE 8:00 8:24 P
8:30
ARKANSAS 8:30 8:33 Y
9:00
ARIZONA 9:00 10:38
COLORADO 10:30 11:42
KANSAS 9:00 9:00 Y
LOUISIANA 9:00 9:00 Y
MICHIGAN 9:00 9:00 Y
MINNESOTA 9:00 10:44
NEBRASKA 9:00 9:04 Y
NEW MEXICO 9:00 10:21
NEW YORK 9:00 9:00 Y
N. DAKOTA 9:00 9:01 Y
S. DAKOTA 9:00 9:00 Y
TEXAS 9:00 9:00 Y
WISCONSIN 9:30 11:27
WYOMING 9:00 9:01 Y
10:00
IOWA 11:30 11:14 P
MONTANA 10:00 10:09 Y
NEVADA 11:00 11:38
UTAH 10:00 10:00 Y
11:00
CALIFORNIA 11:00 11:01 Y
HAWAII 11:00 11:01 Y
IDAHO 11:00 11:01 Y
OREGON 11:00 11:14 Y
WASHINGTON 11:00 11:01 Y
12:00
ALASKA 12:00 1:52

What went well:
The easy states (those that were blowouts – candidate differences >10%)
New Hampshire (got lucky)

What didn’t:
Well, most everything else. You can’t estimates based on polls unless you want to use it as a baseline for which states will be called later. I went with the generic assumption that states will be called based on poll accuracy. Major flaw in theory is that you have to factor in how accurate the polling is. More on that in the next post.

Net results:
Going to leave this to the experts, but it’s fun to try and guess every four years.